Anything shot with a 5D4

[foo]

I got mine yesterday and it a huge upgrade from a mk2 (as others have already said) one thing thats driving me crazy is that I'm only getting a 13/14 shot buffer with RAW??

I have a UDMA 7 160mb/s card is this fast enough? (I think it should be) but can't figure out why I'm not getting the 21??

try the controlled test described here http://www.the-digital-picture.com/News/News-Post.aspx?News=18912
Make sure you try it with all the lens correction options turned off.

check off all the other possible issues - things like CF card is duff, counterfeit or similar and lying about it's speed?
etc.

What size are your raw files? average for me is about 35MB, min 29MB, max 56MB. The test gives 26MB raw files and an aparrently much deeper buffer measured in the number of shots. Likely the buffer is a fixed number of MB and the size of the raw files for your images dictates the number of shots you get in the buffer.

Also, I find the number in the VF seems wildly inaccurate. Generally says 16 with the options I have set, but I do get 22/23 with approx 35MB raw files

 

[Jack Douglas]

I only had one morning with the 5DIV, but I was impressed. 30mp and 7 fps is a capable combination for birds IMO.

Amazing shots!! Which lens? And how much crop?

The owl images were shot with the Canon 600mm f/4 IS II naked and with the 1.4x TC attached. The Flight shot is almost full frame and was shot with the 1.4x TC on the 600. The perched images were shot without the TC and are approximately 35% of the original frame.

The natural light was pretty much perfect this particular morning.

Boy, you have really perfect handling such a large, heavy lens. I'm very impressed. Keep the feedback coming, thanks.

Jack

 

[tpatana]

Another thing is I set up * button for shadows (ie: player running in sunlight, gonna have certain shutterspeed etc. Instead of shooting in AV/TV, I set up pre-game my shadow numbers. So Af-ON is primary back focus button, then use * for focus and shadows. Hope that makes sense).

How's this? Care to explain more?

 

[Ozarker]

Someone had to start it, so come on all you lucky ones spread it around.

Haha! I knew somebody would.

 

[Ozarker]

Here are my photos from Chiefs v Chargers. Only worked on jpegs (yes, they are post processed). Used 70-200L II 2.8 and 400L 2.8.

Impressed with autofocus. Happy with shutter speed. With really harsh light and shadows, felt the dynamic range was good. The larger files really let you crop well on photos I'd usually never bother with, too.

Hope you like: https://www.flickr.com/gp/127024339@N07/68Z6p4

Great photos! How great it must be to be right on the sidelines!

 

[Jack Douglas]

Someone had to start it, so come on all you lucky ones spread it around.

Haha! I knew somebody would.

Great for those of us on the fence to have threads like this with good reliable info, without tons of whining. Thanks to those willing to share!

Jack

 

[Ozarker]

It's baptism will be the Reno Air Races from the pylons. 500 mph within 50 feet. That should test the focusing system.

Wow! I'd sure love to be you! They let you on the pylons? I know you must be an official photographer for the event, but can't even imagine the adrenaline and excitement that must bring. Dangerous too!

There were some races down here in Las Vegas (I live in Mesquite) a few months back. Would have loved a ticket. I think Red Bull was a big sponsor.

Good luck to you and can't wait to see the photos.

 

[zim]

I only had one morning with the 5DIV, but I was impressed. 30mp and 7 fps is a capable combination for birds IMO.

Amazing shots!! Which lens? And how much crop?

The owl images were shot with the Canon 600mm f/4 IS II naked and with the 1.4x TC attached. The Flight shot is almost full frame and was shot with the 1.4x TC on the 600. The perched images were shot without the TC and are approximately 35% of the original frame.

The natural light was pretty much perfect this particular morning.

Boy, you have really perfect handling such a large, heavy lens. I'm very impressed. Keep the feedback coming, thanks.

Jack

Handheld! wow I assumed these were taken using a gimbal, excellent shots.

 

[RBC5]

I only had one morning with the 5DIV, but I was impressed. 30mp and 7 fps is a capable combination for birds IMO.

Really spectacular flight shot. For not having a catchlight, the eye definition is great.

 

[KeithBreazeal]

It's baptism will be the Reno Air Races from the pylons. 500 mph within 50 feet. That should test the focusing system.

Wow! I'd sure love to be you! They let you on the pylons? I know you must be an official photographer for the event, but can't even imagine the adrenaline and excitement that must bring. Dangerous too!

There were some races down here in Las Vegas (I live in Mesquite) a few months back. Would have loved a ticket. I think Red Bull was a big sponsor.

Good luck to you and can't wait to see the photos.

Pylons are crazy. Panning 500 mph aircraft is a bit of a challenge. This was shot with my 5DS. LOL
The air molecules have motion blur.

Reno 2015 VooDoo pylon 6714 © Keith Breazeal by Keith Breazeal, on Flickr

 

[noncho]

Just returned from Canon 5D4 test motorcycle event.
The new camera feels great, but some of the servo shots were not so great with focus accuracy. For example first shot below was part of 4 shot burst, where first 2 were not OK. Low speed with 24-70 2.8, JPEG:

http://www.nonchoiliev.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/5D4_1.jpg
http://www.nonchoiliev.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/5D4_2.jpg

 

[privatebydesign]

Just returned from Canon 5D4 test motorcycle event.
The new camera feels great, but some of the servo shots were not so great with focus accuracy. For example first shot below was part of 4 shot burst, where first 2 were not OK. Low speed with 24-70 2.8, JPEG:

http://www.nonchoiliev.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/5D4_1.jpg
http://www.nonchoiliev.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/5D4_2.jpg

And you would attribute that to focus failure rather than subject motion because?

You do realize the 'sharp' image is 1/200 sec and the focus 'failure' is a moving motorcycle at 1/100.

 

[Ozarker]

It's baptism will be the Reno Air Races from the pylons. 500 mph within 50 feet. That should test the focusing system.

Wow! I'd sure love to be you! They let you on the pylons? I know you must be an official photographer for the event, but can't even imagine the adrenaline and excitement that must bring. Dangerous too!

There were some races down here in Las Vegas (I live in Mesquite) a few months back. Would have loved a ticket. I think Red Bull was a big sponsor.

Good luck to you and can't wait to see the photos.

Pylons are crazy. Panning 500 mph aircraft is a bit of a challenge. This was shot with my 5DS. LOL
The air molecules have motion blur.

Reno 2015 VooDoo pylon 6714 © Keith Breazeal by Keith Breazeal, on Flickr

I'm speechless Keith. Just wonderful!

 

[Ozarker]

Just returned from Canon 5D4 test motorcycle event.
The new camera feels great, but some of the servo shots were not so great with focus accuracy. For example first shot below was part of 4 shot burst, where first 2 were not OK. Low speed with 24-70 2.8, JPEG:

http://www.nonchoiliev.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/5D4_1.jpg
http://www.nonchoiliev.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/5D4_2.jpg

And you would attribute that to focus failure rather than subject motion because?

You do realize the 'sharp' image is 1/200 sec and the focus 'failure' is a moving motorcycle at 1/100.

Maybe it sets up the same as a 5D Mark III for fast action, but yeah... 1/100 is way too slow. I'd have even gone faster than 1/200. That might have stopped the spoke blur though.

This is helpful:
http://www.focrates.com/articles/configuring_your_5d_mark_3_af_for_fast_action/configuring_your_5d_mark_3_af_for_fast_action.html

 

[noncho]

Just returned from Canon 5D4 test motorcycle event.
The new camera feels great, but some of the servo shots were not so great with focus accuracy. For example first shot below was part of 4 shot burst, where first 2 were not OK. Low speed with 24-70 2.8, JPEG:

http://www.nonchoiliev.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/5D4_1.jpg
http://www.nonchoiliev.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/5D4_2.jpg

And you would attribute that to focus failure rather than subject motion because?

You do realize the 'sharp' image is 1/200 sec and the focus 'failure' is a moving motorcycle at 1/100.

The accurate focus is different than than the motion blur, otherwise nobody would do panning shots. I wanted to check especially such low speed shots, it's not by mistake.

Anyway, I'm not trying to spoil anyone happiness, it's a great camera

 

[KeithBreazeal]

Just returned from Canon 5D4 test motorcycle event.
The new camera feels great, but some of the servo shots were not so great with focus accuracy. For example first shot below was part of 4 shot burst, where first 2 were not OK. Low speed with 24-70 2.8, JPEG:

http://www.nonchoiliev.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/5D4_1.jpg
http://www.nonchoiliev.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/5D4_2.jpg

And you would attribute that to focus failure rather than subject motion because?

You do realize the 'sharp' image is 1/200 sec and the focus 'failure' is a moving motorcycle at 1/100.

I expect my 5D IV will be just as good if not better than my 5DS for this type of work. I shot a motorcycle event last Saturday with the 5DS.(I sold my Mark III) 1/160th at f4.
Many things come into play in these shoots, but the cameras are capable.

Click for full size

Dixon Renegade Show Stunt Show 0845 © Keith Breazeal by Keith Breazeal, on Flickr

 

[Besisika]

Crazy pan you got there!

 

[privatebydesign]

Just returned from Canon 5D4 test motorcycle event.
The new camera feels great, but some of the servo shots were not so great with focus accuracy. For example first shot below was part of 4 shot burst, where first 2 were not OK. Low speed with 24-70 2.8, JPEG:

http://www.nonchoiliev.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/5D4_1.jpg
http://www.nonchoiliev.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/5D4_2.jpg

And you would attribute that to focus failure rather than subject motion because?

You do realize the 'sharp' image is 1/200 sec and the focus 'failure' is a moving motorcycle at 1/100.

The accurate focus is different than than the motion blur, otherwise nobody would do panning shots. I wanted to check especially such low speed shots, it's not by mistake.

Anyway, I'm not trying to spoil anyone happiness, it's a great camera

My point was if you don't pan correctly you can't tell the difference between missed focus and motion blur, you didn't pan correctly because the 1/100 shot has motion blur. Ergo you can't tell if the camera missed focus and have motion blur or if you just have motion blur.

Some people can pan way slower than 1/100 sec, me included, but it looks like on that shot you didn't so you can't draw AF conclusions, good or bad, from that single image, and that is what you were doing

 

[KeithBreazeal]

Just returned from Canon 5D4 test motorcycle event.
The new camera feels great, but some of the servo shots were not so great with focus accuracy. For example first shot below was part of 4 shot burst, where first 2 were not OK. Low speed with 24-70 2.8, JPEG:

http://www.nonchoiliev.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/5D4_1.jpg
http://www.nonchoiliev.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/5D4_2.jpg

And you would attribute that to focus failure rather than subject motion because?

You do realize the 'sharp' image is 1/200 sec and the focus 'failure' is a moving motorcycle at 1/100.

The accurate focus is different than than the motion blur, otherwise nobody would do panning shots. I wanted to check especially such low speed shots, it's not by mistake.

Anyway, I'm not trying to spoil anyone happiness, it's a great camera

My point was if you don't pan correctly you can't tell the difference between missed focus and motion blur, you didn't pan correctly because the 1/100 shot has motion blur. Ergo you can't tell if the camera missed focus and have motion blur or if you just have motion blur.

Some people can pan way slower than 1/100 sec, me included, but it looks like on that shot you didn't so you can't draw AF conclusions, good or bad, from that single image, and that is what you were doing

Another thing encountered is when the subject is not perpendicular to the pan, but approaching or going away. The center of the frame follows one point but the left and right side of the subject are moving at different speeds and it changes perspective angles It's a radius from the film plain that constantly is changing during the pan. The closer, the more it is noticed. Focal length and distance are another factor.

example

Nevada County AirFest 2015 B-25 takeoff 1744 web © Keith Breazeal by Keith Breazeal, on Flickr

 

[foo]

weather has been s**te here since the camera arrived, so here's something I found indoors